After 15 years on Wall Street, I use a 100-year-old psychology framework to show bankers and hedge funders how to get to the top (2024)

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After 15 years on Wall Street, I use a 100-year-old psychology framework to show bankers and hedge funders how to get to the top (1)

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  • There are four personality types that typically show up in high-achieving Wall Street workers.
  • Executive coach Justin Doyle who works with private equity professionals, bankers, and hedge fund managers, lays out some strategies on how to deal with each of these different personalities.

After 15 years on Wall Street, I use a 100-year-old psychology framework to show bankers and hedge funders how to get to the top (4)

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After 15 years on Wall Street, I use a 100-year-old psychology framework to show bankers and hedge funders how to get to the top (6)

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I am an executive coach for senior professionals in investment banking, private equity and hedge funds. I help them get promoted and make more money in smarter ways with less stress. I was an M&A banker at Goldman Sachs and worked at top funds like Perry Capital and Moore Capital for 15 years before I became a coach. We are all smart and have the technical skills to do the job; getting ahead is about improving how we interact with our colleagues and clients.

I’ve spent 2,000+ hours listening to my clients talk about the behavior of their colleagues. Here’s a simple framework constructed by psychologists 100 years ago that will help you see what I see. You’ll recognize each of your colleagues described below, and become aware of your own ticks that may be limiting your perspective and success.

Think of four types of personalities and behaviors:

  1. Dominant: decisive, authoritative
  2. Improv: outgoing, “we will just figure it out”
  3. Steady: wants to help others, accommodates clients wishes
  4. Conscientious: fact-driven, anal retentive

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Here’s how these four personalities show up:

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Investment Bankers

  • The D decisive banker sells clients with their confidence. They can sell alpha CEOs on their mutual presence, provide a voice for C-type clients or drive direction for I-type clients. When their D goes too far, they are perceived as not listening, and at times as ego maniacs.
  • The I “improv” banker loves any new idea, meeting or client. A meeting is a potential opportunity to evolve a relationship or win business. It’s a ‘hands on’, ‘figure it out in the moment’ kind of approach. Once the sale has been made / client engaged, this type of person loses interest and moves to the next exciting challenge. I bankers are often criticized for moving too quickly or being ADD.
  • The S banker patiently services clients and builds trusting relationships. They create a feeling of loyalty and service with the client. I worked with an incredible partner at Goldman who patiently covered clients, rarely opening a pitchbook and instead engaged in a dialog to help the client get clear on what they needed. It’s a different style relative to the Ds or Is bankers who look for a quicker kill.
  • The C anal retentive banker is all about the details: getting it “right,” being thorough, methodically following the pages of the book, following checklists. Order is the key. This banker is ideal for processes with lots of moving parts and other complexities. When lawyers switch into banking, they often take this approach. A too C banker can lose sight of the commercial opportunity at hand.
  • Note: If I and C can partner, they are a great team to deliver the full package for the client.

Hedge fund portfolio managers and analysts

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  • “I’m right and I’m all over the details”… D & C personalities dominate hedge funds.
  • Is are wonderful idea generators, but often get shaken out over the life of an investment as the market moves.
  • S types tend to get runover in the hedge fund world. Your investment opinions are wishy-washy, we will take whatever you choose to give, and we will take credit for your work.
  • C obsession with detail, process and proof and D stubbornness and confidence provide the foundation to do the fundamental work and hold an opinion through the vagaries of the market’s movements.
  • While good PMs move out of the C into the D (and to I for fundraising), many senior PMs never get out of the weeds, as their focus and magic is in understanding the details. While this may lead to consistent performance and rising assets under management, it’s the number 1 source of burnout.
  • Overly C individuals who actually make it to PMs often have difficulty scaling GMV and adequately sizing positions, for fear of uncertainty and downside risk. Similarly, I types without enough C lack conviction to scale great ideas and tend to track an index.
  • While a lot of D can be a blessing for many PMs, it can also be their undoing when they become quixotically attached to their conviction despite overwhelming market evidence to the contrary. Bill Ackman is a leading example of this: he will to go on stage with his view, and then ride the position into a world of pain – he’d be so well-served by learning to say “I was wrong.” Other PMs like Dan Loeb are a bit more D and I – when the market tells him he’s wrong, he’s happy to change direction and swim to another wave.

Private equity professionals

  • Most private equity professionals are D to the core – they are sure of their view, and willing to conduct a campaign to build a consensus around their thesis internally and then drive value at portfolio companies.
  • The best PE professionals have an ability to modulate between C and I – from all over the details of the numbers and contract/covenants, to politic and friendly enough to build consensus and rapport with management teams. There’s not much need for S – PE is about selling expensive capital, deploying assets under management and monetizing results.
  • Emotional volatility and vulnerability are especially unwelcome here – other personalities may experience these professionals as a bit cold or calculating.

Strategies for dealing with each personality type

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  • When dealing with a D, stay focused on the result. They could care less about your feelings, creativity or need for perfection. They want it done.
  • When dealing with an I, give them room to run though many ideas at once. Help them tie it all together or extract a theme to create a next step. These types are prolific idea generators, but need to be bridled for maximum impact.
  • When dealing with an S, tell them how they can help. Thank them for all of their work, and pause to give them room to express their opinions. These are the most valuable, loyal workers, so take the time to water the garden and sustain the relationship over time.
  • When dealing with a C, use data and don’t hope for too much fun or excitement. To help them move towards a decision, ask them what they would need to know to move forward – this will guide the conversation and limit the analysis paralysis.

Justin Doyle is an executive coach who works frequently with employees in the finance industry.

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After 15 years on Wall Street, I use a 100-year-old psychology framework to show bankers and hedge funders how to get to the top (2024)

FAQs

How to be a good hedge fund analyst? ›

Becoming a hedge fund analyst starts with specific educational requirements and knowledge. It is important to have a strong understanding of finance, financial products, the economy, and various financial markets. Majors in finance, math, physics, and engineering are all suitable majors, though not required.

What personality type is a hedge fund? ›

D & C personalities dominate hedge funds. Is are wonderful idea generators, but often get shaken out over the life of an investment as the market moves. S types tend to get runover in the hedge fund world.

How old are hedge fund analysts? ›

The average age of hedge fund managers is 40+ years years old, representing 71% of the hedge fund manager population.

What is the average lifespan of a hedge fund? ›

As a quantitative researcher who previously worked in the hedge fund industry, Farnsworth has been studying hedge funds for quite some time. Over the years, he noticed that the average lifespan of a hedge fund is quite short – less than five years.

How much do first year hedge fund analysts make? ›

The salaries look something like this: Junior analyst: $100K approx, split more or less evenly between a base salary and a bonus. Hedge fund analyst: $150K-$200K, with bonuses typically bringing the salary above $500K in a good year. Senior analyst: $1 million approximately, with most of this being the bonus.

How long does it take to become a hedge fund analyst? ›

As a general rule of thumb, a career track for an analyst usually consists of: 2-3 years as analyst, 1-3 years as senior analyst, and then a portfolio manager (if at a single P&L fund you might have to leave to accomplish a PM role).

What kind of people do hedge funds hire? ›

There are two main entry points into hedge funds: directly out of undergraduate as a Junior Analyst or Research Associate, or as an Analyst, after you work for several years in a field like investment banking, equity research, asset management, or sales & trading.

What degrees do hedge funds look for? ›

Hedge fund managers often have a master's degree or even a Ph. D. in finance, mathematics, economics, financial engineering, quantitative finance, programming, marketing, or business administration. Others have advanced degrees in a specialty such as engineering or accounting.

Who is the target audience for hedge fund? ›

A hedge fund investment is often considered a risky, alternative investment choice and usually requires a high minimum investment or net worth. Hedge funds typically target wealthy investors.

What hedge fund has the highest returns ever? ›

The highest return ever made by a hedge fund was achieved by Renaissance Technologies' Medallion Fund in 1993, with an astounding 148% return.

What is the most profitable hedge fund ever? ›

Citadel, a Miami-based multistrategy hedge-fund firm, led the list with a $74 billion net gain for its investors since inception in 1990 through 2023. It racked up an $8.1 billion profit last year.

What is the average age of fund managers? ›

To that point, of the 15,000 portfolio managers tracked by Citywire, the average age is 49 and 89 percent are men. The age range is extreme, with the oldest coming in at a respectable 77 and the youngest being 24 years old. In this ranking, Citywire looked at 20 of the top managers worldwide who are age 40 and under.

How much money do you need to be considered a hedge fund? ›

a minimum investment of $1 million to $10 million. Despite such high thresholds, through Morgan Stanley, clients can often gain access to funds at much lower minimum investments. As discussed later, investments in single manager hedge funds may be as low as $100,000 per fund.

What is the failure rate of hedge funds? ›

One of the reasons for the perceived high failure rate of hedge funds is that their attrition rate is known to be high, approximately 9% per annum. The latter rate is generally estimated by counting the number of defunct funds in hedge fund databases.

What is the average profit of a hedge fund? ›

As measured by a more traditional way of assessing returns, the top grouping gained 10.5% in 2023, outperforming the average hedge fund which returned 6.4%. Over the past three years, the top 20 have generated 83% of the absolute gains made by all hedge fund managers, the report found.

Is hedge fund analyst stressful? ›

It's extremely difficult to break into hedge funds, and once you're in, the job is stressful and requires long hours and sacrifices.

Do hedge fund analysts make a lot of money? ›

Hedge fund salaries vary a lot based on the fund size, type, strategy, annual performance, and other factors. The most likely range for total compensation at the Analyst level is $200K to $600K USD.

What do hedge fund analysts major in? ›

Key Takeaways. A Bachelor of Science (B.S.) degree in finance is ideal for a variety of hedge fund jobs, but your major will matter. Bachelor of Science degrees in mathematics, accounting, physics, computer science, and even engineering are also useful, given the recent rise in algorithmic trading.

How much do hedge fund quants make? ›

How much does a Hedge Fund Quant make? As of May 15, 2024, the average annual pay for the Hedge Fund Quant jobs category in the United States is $169,729 a year. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $81.60 an hour. This is the equivalent of $3,264/week or $14,144/month.

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